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Do you think King Cold is in his Final Form?
Topic Started: Aug 14 2016, 07:03 AM (3,388 Views)
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Who's to say transforming takes time? No one attempted to interrupt Freeza's first two transformations. The last was the only one that took some time.

Also, there was no Death Ball in the manga
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lazerbem
Aug 15 2016, 10:20 PM
Who's to say transforming takes time? No one attempted to interrupt Freeza's first two transformations. The last was the only one that took some time.

Also, there was no Death Ball in the manga
It's not like Trunks is the type of person to let his opponent reach their full power.
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Why not? He let Cell do so.

Scratch that, he did not
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

Ah, there was not? I couldn't find volume 12 of my manga to check xD. But needless to say, there was a short timeline of events.

They had a conversation while Freeza was transforming and Dende went over and healed Piccolo. Then Piccolo and Dende had a conversation about the healing powers of Namekians, and Freeza noticed so he killed Dende. I mean, it took him a little while, at least.
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Nah Manga Freeza just uses a Death Blaster, the attack hits Trunks, makes a smoke cloud, and then he thinks Trunks is dead. Trunks deflecting the Death Blaster and the Death Ball were entirely anime additions
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I heard that freiza thought that his father would have been able to help against the sayain if that's true than there close in power cold 2ed form and freizas final form. I am a firm believer that cold is in his seconed form and close to freiza most people Ive talked to put him around 80% finale form freiza. trunks would not allow him to transform anyway he tried to stop cell but vegeta would not let him so why would he let cold do it. if colds 80% freiza we can calculate his power. freiza from form 2 to final is 100x so if cold is 80% freiza than hes at 96,000,000 and times that by 100 his theoretical final form is 9,600,000,000. and a theoretical 3rd form at 424,320,000 and first form at 184,486,957. this is of course going off of if the power levels I found of freiza saga are correct so many fake ones lol. these are the multipliers for there races forms.im also a firm believer in all forms have same multipier for all races.

1st to 2ed 2.3x
2ed to 3rd 4.4x
3rd to final 22.6x
Rounded to the nearest tenths
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Aug 18 2016, 11:55 AM


2ed to 3rd 4.4x

This would make Freeza's third form stronger than Base Goku, who was at 3 million.
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Aug 18 2016, 12:16 PM
StenouousSpider
Aug 18 2016, 11:55 AM


2ed to 3rd 4.4x

This would make Freeza's third form stronger than Base Goku, who was at 3 million.
that's takeing 3rd form dividing it by 2ed form to get the multiplier I you can find me the official power scaling I can redo it. like I said it was hard to find one that had freiza at full power at 120,000,000 and goku at 150,000,000 I believe.
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Goku (3 million) ~ Initial Final Form Freeza > Vegeta post-Zenkai > Third Form Freeza > Second form Freeza (over 1 million)
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Aug 14 2016, 07:48 AM
I don't think he had the time. They underestimated Trunks, especially Cold, since he had never seen a Super Saiyan fight. Whereas Freeza was having a PTSD flashback basically. By the time he knew Trunks' power, he just believed the sword cut Freeza up and Trunks took them off guard. Like, if the kienzan had actually killed someone significant. Very lucky. So he baited Trunks for the sword and only realized as Trunks overpowered him that Trunks was actually hugely more powerful than him. Before they fought, Trunks just survived and dodged a couple of Freeza's attacks.
My thoughts exactly I don't think Cold had the time. It was clear that Freiza was afraid of his father whether it was psychological due to abuse experienced as a child or his father being stronger or a little bit of both I can't say.
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When did Freeza show any fear towards his father?
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Aug 20 2016, 06:04 AM
Sam
Aug 14 2016, 07:48 AM
I don't think he had the time. They underestimated Trunks, especially Cold, since he had never seen a Super Saiyan fight. Whereas Freeza was having a PTSD flashback basically. By the time he knew Trunks' power, he just believed the sword cut Freeza up and Trunks took them off guard. Like, if the kienzan had actually killed someone significant. Very lucky. So he baited Trunks for the sword and only realized as Trunks overpowered him that Trunks was actually hugely more powerful than him. Before they fought, Trunks just survived and dodged a couple of Freeza's attacks.
My thoughts exactly I don't think Cold had the time. It was clear that Freiza was afraid of his father whether it was psychological due to abuse experienced as a child or his father being stronger or a little bit of both I can't say.
Why would he say he's the strongest right in front of him if he was afraid?
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